Legislature(2003 - 2004)

03/25/2003 08:04 AM House STA

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SCR  4-AVALANCHE AWARENESS MONTH                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR WEYHRAUCH  announced that the  first order of  business was                                                               
CS  FOR  SENATE CONCURRENT  RESOLUTION  NO.  4(STA), Relating  to                                                               
Avalanche Awareness Month.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Number 0111                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR LYDA GREEN,  Alaska State Legislature, sponsor  of SCR 4,                                                               
told  the  committee   there  have  been  an   untold  number  of                                                               
[avalanche-related] tragedies  in the  Matanuska-Susitna Borough.                                                               
She  related   her  personal  knowledge  of   those  affected  by                                                               
avalanche  tragedy   and  the  efforts  of   people  to  increase                                                               
avalanche  awareness.     The  proposed  resolution   would  draw                                                               
attention to and honor those who  begin an education program.  In                                                               
response to a  question by Chair Weyhrauch, she  noted some areas                                                               
where "highmarking" occurs.  She  said people's efforts to expand                                                               
avalanche   awareness  have   resulted  in   donations,  funding,                                                               
networking, and educational videos and teaching guides.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Number 0393                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  GRUENBERG began  discussion of  Amendment 1.   On                                                               
page 2, line 1,  after "November 2003", he  suggested adding "and                                                               
each succeeding November".                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR WEYHRAUCH proposed just saying "the month of November".                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR GREEN concurred.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR WEYHRAUCH, in response to  a comment by Senator Green, said                                                               
it  wouldn't  involve  a  [title]  change.    He  clarified  that                                                               
[Amendment  1] would  change the  language to  read, "the  Alaska                                                               
State Legislature  proclaims the  month of November  as Avalanche                                                               
Awareness Month;".                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  WEYHRAUCH announced  that without  objection, Amendment  1                                                               
was adopted.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Number 0545                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE BERKOWITZ  asked if  there were  any plans  to put                                                               
money towards avalanche safety.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR GREEN replied that it is  such a huge issue, no amount of                                                               
money is enough; that  she has tried to figure out  if there is a                                                               
way  to  create  a  gathering point  from  which  to  extrapolate                                                               
information  for  avalanche awareness,  but  that  it is  such  a                                                               
moving target, it  is very difficult; and that  she would attempt                                                               
to get funds into the program for this year.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Number 0730                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  BERKOWITZ said  he has  "run amendments  the last                                                               
couple of  years, trying to put  money back in."   He said former                                                               
Governor  Knowles  wanted  an  avalanche  awareness  program  and                                                               
wanted to  improve search and rescue.   He noted that  one of his                                                               
own   amendments  had   been  for   $350,000,   which  would   be                                                               
"barebones."  He stated his  understanding that [Alaska] had more                                                               
fatalities than any  other state last year, not  just per capita.                                                               
He  said anything  [the legislature]  could do  to make  Alaska a                                                               
safer  state  would  be  great.   He  mentioned  the  efforts  of                                                               
[former]  Senator  Halford  and Representative  Kerttula  to  put                                                               
money  into  [avalanche-related  issues],  but  said  that  is  a                                                               
piecemeal  approach.    He  opined  that  some  of  the  greatest                                                               
avalanche experts  in the  country are in  Alaska and  that their                                                               
knowledge should  be used to develop  a system that could  be the                                                               
envy of all the mountain regions in the world.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Number 0818                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
AEDENE  ARTHUR, Cofounder,  Backcountry  Avalanche Awareness  and                                                               
Response Team,  noted that as a  Mom On a Mission  (MOM) she also                                                               
speaks for the  families who have lost loved  ones in avalanches,                                                               
including the families of the 14  young people who were killed in                                                               
1999  in avalanches  in  Alaska.   Ms.  Arthur  said  it is  very                                                               
difficult  for most  people to  campaign  when they  have lost  a                                                               
child.   Testifying in support  of [SCR  4], Ms. Arthur  said she                                                               
thinks the  amendment to make November  avalanche awareness month                                                               
every year  is wonderful.   She added, "We  do use this  month to                                                               
promote  avalanche awareness  and  education  to all  backcountry                                                               
travelers  in the  state of  Alaska,  with the  intent of  saving                                                               
lives and preventing injuries in avalanches."                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MS. ARTHUR  said the month  has also been  used to teach,  in the                                                               
classroom, the importance of carrying  and knowing how to use the                                                               
basic avalanche gear of beacons,  probes, and shovels.  She noted                                                               
that  about 40  percent of  people [caught  by an  avalanche] are                                                               
killed by the  initial trauma.  Regarding those  who survive, she                                                               
said, "The  only way you have  of getting someone out  and giving                                                               
them a  chance to live  ... is if you  can find them  quickly and                                                               
get them  out with a  beacon."   She said a  person has 15  to 20                                                               
minutes of  air.  After  that time, if  a search and  rescue team                                                               
has to be called, it is usually for a body recovery.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Number 0990                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
MS. ARTHUR  explained why this issue  is so important to  her and                                                               
her husband.  They came to  Alaska in 1968 with their three-year-                                                               
old daughter  to teach.   A son  and another daughter  were born,                                                               
and the  family moved  to Palmer  in 1982,  where they  lived and                                                               
worked until  retirement.  Unfortunately,  their son died  in the                                                               
March 21  avalanche at Turnagain  Pass, along with 5  other young                                                               
men, when a section a mile  wide came down the mountain.  Between                                                               
March and May of  that year, 13 people in Alaska  were lost.  She                                                               
pointed out that it is not  just people on snow machines that get                                                               
caught  by avalanches.   Victims  have  included people  working,                                                               
hiking, skiing, and  snowshoeing.  Drivers in some  areas can put                                                               
themselves  in  harm's  way,  too,  she  said,  if  the  snow  is                                                               
unstable.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Number 1178                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
MS.  ARTHUR  noted  the  typical  profile of  those  who  die  in                                                               
avalanches across the United States  as follows:  male, educated,                                                               
experienced in their  sport, in their 20s to 30s  and, in Alaska,                                                               
into their 40s.  Ms. Arthur  told the committee that when her son                                                               
died, he was  29, had been married seven months,  and left behind                                                               
over  80 family  members.   She  said, "We  mourn  his loss  just                                                               
exactly as if  it was yesterday."  She said  one reason she works                                                               
hard on  this campaign is  so other  mothers don't have  to worry                                                               
about their  children.  She added  that not only did  she and her                                                               
husband lose  their son that day,  but his body wasn't  found for                                                               
more than two  months.  Referring to a previous  comment by Chair                                                               
Weyhrauch, Ms. Arthur  said it's not just  "highmarkers" who die;                                                               
it relates to the snow's  stability and the underlying layer, but                                                               
a person  can't always tell by  looking.  She opined  that people                                                               
should be able to call to  find out conditions from experts, just                                                               
as pilots do before they fly.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Number 1330                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE HOLM thanked  Ms. Arthur for testifying.   He told                                                               
her that  his son  takes helicopters  up to  teach skiing  in the                                                               
Valdez area, and  that his mother purchased an  avalanche kit for                                                               
him.   He  asked Ms.  Arthur  if she  is  aware of  a kit  that's                                                               
available.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
MS. ARTHUR  answered that the  beacon, probe, and shovel  are the                                                               
basic avalanche gear  to get people out if they  get buried.  She                                                               
said she  was aware that other  things have been developed.   She                                                               
said her son had everything  including a beacon, but still wasn't                                                               
found for  two months  because the  avalanche was  so huge.   She                                                               
noted that  Carl Skustad,  a federal  ranger in  Girdwood, checks                                                               
snow conditions and "checks with people"  and has set up a number                                                               
to call  to find out current  conditions at Turnagain Pass.   She                                                               
thanked  Senator Green  and indicated  that the  small amount  of                                                               
money  "that got  through"  has  been used  to  do "a  tremendous                                                               
amount of things all over the state."                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Number 1530                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
BOB JANES  told the committee he  has been a resident  of Douglas                                                               
for 38  years, during which  time he  worked for the  U.S. Forest                                                               
Service  for  18   years  and  was  involved   in  winter  sports                                                               
administration,  ski area  development, avalanche  awareness, and                                                               
"the  whole  arena of  that  outdoor  recreation industry."    He                                                               
thanked  Representative   Berkowitz  for  his   remark  regarding                                                               
funding, because he said he has  a great deal of interest in that                                                               
subject.  He  said Ms. Arthur adequately  covered "statistics and                                                               
issues."   He told members he  was testifying in support  of [SCR
4] both as  a concerned citizen and as a  current volunteer board                                                               
member of the Southeast Alaska Avalanche Center in Juneau.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
MR.  JANES advised  the committee  that in  the early  1980s, the                                                               
U.S. Forest Service  was a lead agency in helping  to develop and                                                               
operate  a statewide  avalanche warning  system for  Alaska.   He                                                               
noted  that it  was  an  effort among  12  government agencies  -                                                               
federal, state,  and municipal -  that was  cooperatively funded,                                                               
managed, and developed.   He said, "My job, at  that time, was to                                                               
represent that  agency in  this effort."   Mr. Janes  opined that                                                               
[SCR 4] should  help strengthen the awareness of  the dangers and                                                               
risks involved with  snow avalanches throughout Alaska.   He also                                                               
voiced hope that  it may be a step toward  restoring operation of                                                               
a statewide avalanche warning system  that would be fully capable                                                               
of meeting the  needs of effective avalanche  education, which is                                                               
currently  ongoing.    He  noted, "The  one  missing  element  is                                                               
adequate forecasting methods."   He said he is  confident that an                                                               
adequate   system  could   be  restored   for  Alaska   with  the                                                               
restoration of a large cooperative effort.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Number 1748                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  BERKOWITZ  moved  to   report  CSSCR  4(STA),  as                                                               
amended,  out of  committee with  individual recommendations  and                                                               
the  accompanying  fiscal  note.     There  being  no  objection,                                                               
HCS CSSCR  4(STA)  was  reported  from the  House  State  Affairs                                                               
Standing Committee.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                

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